"Because of the long back straight we seemed to be matched up pretty close. I know it was frustrating for John because I'd manage to get into Turn 9 just barely ahead of him because of more speed down the straight.  He'd almost get under me because of brakes (the Ferrari still had drums and didn't stop at all well, actually the brakes were terrible) and then where his car was really superior was up through the esses, he'd be stuck behind me.  I remember that he did get by though.  John was a better driver than me anyway.  I did love racing the Ferrari, even though it was far past its prime.  Someone told me that I was matching Ginther's lap times at Riverside (He ran that same car there some years earlier). I don't know if that information was true or not, but it did make me feel pretty good."